Unplug and go "light", says the company's co-founder Joe Hollier. Light makes old-school phones for text and phone calls, a stark contrast to the hyper-technical smartphones of today.
For the full interview, [click here](https://cheddar.com/videos/the-phone-away-from-your-iphone).
John Haar, managing director of Swan Private Client Services at Swan Bitcoin, joined Cheddar News to discuss the different forces which affected the price of the cryptocurrency in 2022.